Identification of grip types.
 
There were three styles of
grips.
The safety determines the type.
Note the cut outs on their tops.
The top left image is the original First Model.
The middle image is the Old Model.
The New Model is shown far right.
The New Model is illustrated in the
above parts diagram.
Grips are sold in pairs unless otherwise noted.
Variations in
factory grip styles.
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The Black Pearl Grip at the top left is for a First
Model P25 and is the only
example I have ever seen. Most First Model P25 grips
were white pearl.
The Walnut Grip second to left was commonly found on Old
Model P25/MP25's.
Next is the very controversial and rather rare Pink Pearl
Grip on an MP25.
The Black Plastic Grip to the far right was used on late
model Raven Arms
MP25's and also on some Phoenix Arms Raven pistols.
The Phoenix Arms
Raven is identical to the Raven Arms and the parts
are interchangeable.
The one unique feature of the Phoenix Arms Raven pistols
is the magazine
disconnect incorporated into the last ones they produced.
The right grip
of these pistols has a cutout for the disconnect spring
(Part 129) which is
necessary if your going to keep the spring in place.
These grips can be used
on any Raven even if it never had this spring. The
picture below shows the
grip on the left with the cutout and a standard grip on
the right.
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New Reproduction Grip
These are the Black Plastic Grips
noted in the price list.
They are new reproductions of the Old Model walnut grips.
They are available for the New Model safety as well.
I pre-fit all the reproduction grips to a factory standard
pistol
prior to shipping, but some minor fitting may still be required
on your particular Raven. Give me a call should you have
any problems and we'll help you out.
Differences in
Safeties.
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At the top is the Raven First Model Sliding Safety.
In the middle we have what is commonly referred
to as the Old Model
Safety and at the bottom is the
New Model Safety.
The safety is the most
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Magazines
common to the P25/MP25.
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Pictured above left is an original Raven Arms marked
magazine in blue steel.
These were also made in stainless steel as seen below.
Most Raven magazines
had no markings on them at all. The third picture is
an original Phoenix
Arms
Raven magazine. These magazines were available in
stainless steel as well.
The Phoenix Arms Raven is identical to
the standard
New Model Raven
pistols and all parts will interchange.
Below, on the far right, is the
"Safety Notice" found on some newer magazines. You
can right click on the
picture and select "View Image" to see a larger version.

A Raven magazine I've never seen before recently came my
way. The back of
the body is stamped with the Raven Logo and "Raven Arms 25
ACP." It has the
newer style magazine follower and may be the first attempt
at marking the
magazine bodies.

NOTE: Raven pistol's were
manufactured in three locations over a period of
20 years by two different manufactures. Due to
differences in manufacturing
tolerances you may have to modify your magazine or
pistol for a proper fit.
If the magazine won't go in
or is tight try these solutions first:
1. The right
side of the magazine (where the long opening is) may be
swollen
near the top and along
the opening. With the magazine assembled take a
hammer and lightly tap
the magazine body on the side from the top down
along the opening.
Don't go crazy or you'll jam the magazine
follower.
Test it in the pistol
then make sure the bullets will load and feed properly.
2.
Check that the Grip Screws are not protruding into the
magazine well and
dragging on the side of
your new magazine. You will see a long srcatch up
the side of the magazine body
if it is. This is more common with the walnut
grips, as the wood can
compress if the screws are over tightened.
3.
On the front of the Magazine there is a weld line.
Sometimes the weld is
heavier than normal.
File this down keeping the rounded shape the full
length of the weld until it
fits into the grip with little or no resistance.
I personally check every magazine I sell for proper fit
and function in at least
3 different Raven pistols prior to shipping. If you
still have problems and none
of the above tips help you, ship the pistol to me
with the magazine(s) I sold you
and I'll fit them for you at no charge.
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Ordering
& Repair Information
- Open
8:00AM - 8:00PM EST -
Parts Ordering Information: It's
best to call and use a charge card as inventories
change daily. While I do accept checks and money orders, the
item could be sold out by
the time your payment arrives and may result in delays or a return
of your payment.
However, if you feel more comfortable sending a check that's fine.
Checks and money
orders should be made out to
"John Torelli." If sending an order by mail there
is a
form at this link for
Mail-In Orders
Only that you may
find useful. As soon as your
payment posts your order will be shipped and you will receive an
email confirmation.
All orders have a $6.00 shipping charge regardless of the size or part
price. Shipping
charges for International orders will be charged accordingly.
New Jersey residents
need to include 7% sales tax.
Due to the
large volume of automated political telemarketing calls that are
not blocked by
the "Do Not Call List"
I do not
answer calls that have the callers ID hidden. Those
calls
will get the answering service. Should you be a legitimate
caller leave a message and I'll
call you back.
Important Notice:
* Unless otherwise noted, all the parts listed
are
original Raven
parts in the
best condition I can find.
Please remember that the Ravens have been out
of production for almost 20
years and some parts may not look like new.
Also I can not vouch for the integrity
of any individual part as I have no idea
how it was used, stored, cared
for or handled before I found it. Some parts
may be almost 40 years old and there
is no way to tell by looking at them.
If original parts are unavailable a
fully functioning substitute may be sent.
My goal is to keep your Raven working
one way or the other.
For
phone orders or repair inquiries call - (856)825-5766
For other information send an E-Mail
to - JTorelli3@comcast.net
I do not have online
ordering.
Repair Information:
It is perfectly legal for you to ship a handgun to a
licensed repair
center and have it returned directly to you once repairs are
completed. This shop has been
fully licensed for 29 years and can accept your work. There
is a $20.00 repair charge on the
Ravens plus an $8.50 return shipping charge. This does
not include the cost of any parts that
may be needed. Repairs will include cleaning and test firing
6 rounds
Shipping Notes:
01) It's illegal to use the US Postal Service to ship a handgun to
me unless you are a licensed dealer.
02) FedEx, UPS or any other common carrier is fine.
03) Do not mark on the package that it is a firearm.
04) If necessary, tell the carrier that the package contains
a disassembled and broken pistol for repair.
05) Be sure to get a tracking number to keep the shipment from
getting lost or stolen.
06) Address your package to:
John Torelli 501 Ireland Ave. Millville
NJ 08332
IMPORTANT:
Be sure to provide me with your
Name,
Address
& Phone Number and include a note as to
what you want done. I routinely get packages containing
broken guns with no return address
or identifying information. Please understand that I get
dozens of calls and emails every day
inquiring about parts and repairs, so do not assume that just
because we discussed your gun a
week or two ago that I know that this particular gun is yours.
I need a
Name, Address
and
Phone Number or it will
substantially delay repair and return of your firearm.